Class Discussion: Warlord

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  1. xDrac

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    I'm very interested in what kind of sub-classes the warlord will have, I'd like a more offensive and DPS heavy option, but I definitely like the idea of classes branching out and giving more choice to the players in general!

    I really missed that in MMORPG games.
     
  2. Zarkon

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    I think a pull ability for the Warlord would be awesome. Maybe throwing a javelin attached to a rope/chain to drag enemies toward you.
     
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    Yes i want my Greatsword again.
     
  4. IronArm

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    Yes, but I hope that as a Warlord I'll have more purpose than a vehicle operator (which it seems y'all are looking at already). While its usually natural for tanks to be more needed in PvE, I just don't want to see a point in time where PvP is turn into DPS classes being the only important role. If the tanks only purpose was to hold the line and block enemies from just running through, I'd be happy.

    Another thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is an ability that isn't talked about in the first post, but was seen several times in the trailer. Its the whirlwind style strike that the Warlord uses in the fights with the dragon and when battling on the ship. The ability is the only one I can know for sure is a class ability being used (Charge and Ironclad may have been used, but its difficult to tell).

    The whirlwind strike ability seems to be on a 1-2 second cooldown (I'm not sure if the cooldown starts at the beginning of animation or the end). It seems to be an important ability (at least in the CBT stage) as it was used 4 or 5 times in the trailer and the ability that is spammed by the Warlord. Best time to see it is at 4:28-4:29 time stamp on trailer video.

    I don't believe it has any type of threat generation (other than damage) associated with it, because it was used in both PvE and PvP heavily. Could be pure damage related, AoE effect (only 1 enemy in range when used, and effect radius looks small, but slightly longer than weapon default range), The Warlord can move while using the ability. Warlord makes three full turns, with third turn having upper momentum (possibly more damage on third hit?)

    TL-DR version:
    Ability: Whirlwind Attack
    Cooldown: 1-2 seconds
    Type: Damage + AoE??
    Description: Warlord swing his/her weapon around 3 times (possibly damaging enemy with each full rotation).

    EDIT:
    Sorry, Ironclad ability can be seen at 4:31 in the video. Four different shields surround the Warlord. I do believe the Whirlwind attack is AOE, because at 4:31-4:32 the ability seems to hit two different targets, but the angle makes it difficult to know with 100% accuracy.
     
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    just give us a greatsword B L E S S

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    Greatsword class ala Aion right? =)
     
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    Cant wait to see more on this utility tank. kinda like Warrior from bdo. Hoping for a nice great sword sounds like it would have a good time with it.
     
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    I dunno. I'm digging the hammer. Very Paladin like.
     
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    I would like to see options in what is the primary weapon. Would like to see a sword, spear, and axe option. From the sound of things though, it may be like BDO with only 1 option available.
     
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    Yep....
     
  12. IronArm

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    Right now, we know of three different abilities: Ironclad, Charge, and the whirlwind strike I mentioned earlier.

    I'm going to list some other abilities I would like to see for both the two different sub-classes. All of these are just based off what I would like to see if the game is going down the path I believe it is going and there will be a tanky and DPS sub-class.

    Guard/Protect: Splits damage received 50-50 with the Warlord and guarded individual. (For the tank sub-class)
    • This ability would have to have a range associated with it. The guarded individual would need to stay near the Warlord for the effect to take place.
    • In PvE, this ability could help with aggro management. Possibly the Warlord could get some of the aggro generated by guarded individual.
    • In PvP, this would mean that squishy targets are protected from easily being burst downed. This would also make the Warlord a target in small scale PvP, instead of them just being saved for last.
    Pull Ability: Pulls target to the Warlord (possible 1-2 second snare effect).
    • In PvE, this would be the "Pull the mob" ability. It should generate aggro to help the Warlord tank.
    • In PvP, this would be the counter to Gunslingers that would just keep kiting without the Warlord ever being to even touch them.
    • Cooldown would need to be around 10-15s to keep from the ability being broken.
    • The snare effect depends on the level of CC other classes have in the game.
    Earth-shatter: An AOE ability around the Warlord that does little damage, but slows all enemies it hits. (Damage increased for DPS sub-class/Slow duration increased for Tank sub-class)
    • In PvE, this ability would just be an AOE that would generate aggro for the adds or for the DPS spec to deal big damage a group of mobs.
    • In PvP, this would stop enemies from just rushing past the Warlord to get to the squishy targets in the back. That means only the extremely mobile characters could get past easily, while others had to fight toe-to-toe with a Warlord.
    • I think a 5-8s cooldown would be enough, with possible a lower cooldown for the DPS sub-class.
    Break Armor: Lowers the defense of the target + light damage (Damage increased for DPS sub-class)
    • In PvE, this would help the Warlord while soloing. Since if the tanky sub-class does little damage, the Warlord will need a way to make up for it.
    • This would also help balance the gaps in damage between a Warlord DPS and other DPS classes like the Assassin/Sorc/Gunslinger (I do believe the Warlord DPS should do less damage than the other 3 overall, but this can just help close the damage gap some).
    • In PvP, this would help similar to the way it does in PvP.
    • I think a 4-5s cooldown would be good for this ability.
    Shield Slam: Slams shield into target stunning them for 2-3 seconds.
    • In PvE, this could be used to stop channeling of mobs.
    • In PvP, this could either be used if an enemy is trying to escape from your team or an enemy jumps onto your teammate.
    • I think the cooldown should be around 10-12s. It should be long enough that you can't spam it in a fight, but can use multiple times in a big engagement.
     
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    Love the whole tank idea, it can go in pvp as well
     
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    Seems legit so far, not many classes with Hammer exist out there in MMO world, definitely will try it together with Gunslinger
     
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    It does my heart glad to see comments like this. In my past experiences with MMO's, I've found myself gravitating toward the school of thought that there is no better place to be in the heat of battle than behind a trusty shield. I can't wait to see what comes down the line for the Warlord. Interestingly enough, the character graphic for the class itself on the Class page shows the Warlord wielding a massive two-handed hammer without a shield, so I'm curious to see if we'll be able to swap out the hammer and board for a more offensive style by sacrificing some defensive capability.

    It would appear lots of folks like the idea of a greatsword, but I'll also be curious to see if we're weapon-locked in with just hammers and shields of varying sizes and those are the weapons that define the class, much like pistols and rifles for Gunners, or staves for the Sorceress. I know it's incredibly early in the development process to nail down details like this, but going forward I'd be interested to know if they introduce more weapon variance with sub-classes.
     
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    so hyped for the warlord! can't wait to see more of this class.
     
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    Some imagines of the Warlord (credit to Tsutsu)
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    DUDE THIS SET IS LIT, WHAT IS THIS
     
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    So from what we can tell on the live stream. You can switch between a "attack" style and a "defense" style of the WarLord class at will. Speculation is that those are the two "subclasses" since the abilities change as you switch between the styles.
     
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